This is part 2 of a longer conversation about our favorite Post Apocalyptic and Apocalyptic fiction (part 1 of this conversation is in episode 2 of the podcast). In this episode, we talk about 3 episodes of the Twilight Zone ("Two", "A Time Enough to Last", "The Midnight Sun"), video games (The Fallout series, "The Last of Us" - recorded prior to the release of "The Last of Us Part 2" - which we both loved!), RPG's (Twilight 2000 & Aftermath!), literature ("By the Waters of Babylon", "The Day of the Triffids", "There Will Come Soft Rains", "The Tripods Trilogy", "The Horseclans” series, & "Heiro's Journey"). After that, Joe leads us in a Practices section all about the importance of writing daily. We end the episode with a dramatization of J.N. Cameron's short story "The Testing of Affa-Eash".